/how creepy is it that she can look at people, say they look like children, and then go home to a lover that is their same apparent age?/
Not just people, DEAD people. She kills children and then goes to sleep with one. If that’s not twisted, I don’t know what is.
/"men never expected me to be able to keep up with them/
Would you give it a rest, Ms. Hamilton? You know what would do a better job of showing how awesome your heroine is? If all of the men that she worked with respected her and admired her because of how good she is at her job.
/Urlrich says he heard that Anita is going to cut up the corpses in front of the other vampires, and Anita nods/
Okay, I know that a lot of people get upset when vampires are used for analogues to real life because vampires are bloodsucking monsters and thus their situation is naturally different from that of minorities or just humans in general. But dear Lord. If any American soldier was caught doing that to an enemy soldier and word got out? They would be slammed so hard with human rights violations. I know that people have compared LKH’s ideas about torture and murder to “24,” but does this scenario ever happen on “24?” Does Jack Bauer actually mutilate the corpses of the suspect’s friends in front of them while he’s interrogating them?
I’m sorry, ANITA is the one who understands monsters here? ANITA is the one who’s upset by society’s discrimination towards them? Yeah, Anita, the vampires are afraid of you – because you’re a sadistic psycho!
/that phrase is generally used by men to condescend to women/
Which fits Anita to a tee, since she condescends to anyone who dares to object to her bloodthirsty ways.
/"Guys didn't ask about emotions unless they had to"/
Which is why there are no male psychologists, psychiatrists, counselors, or therapists.
/"it's not cozy being the monster."/
Oh, but you like bragging about how the vampires are all afraid of you. You can’t have it both ways.
/"He looked so serious, so convinced he was right./
BECAUSE HE *IS*, YOU DERANGED PSYCHOPATH!
/Anita argues that regular interrogation takes too much time/
Ah, yes, the old “ticking bomb” scenario. Always handy for torture-apologists. But, of course, they miss the "practical" point entirely: TORTURE DOESN’T WORK. Does LKH think that all of the people who “confessed” to be witches during the Salem Witch Trials were really witches?
/Now, I've been a fan of Law & order: SVU/
So have I and that show has gone back and forth on this issue often. But it has sometimes acknowledged that police going to extremes is wrong and has had a few episodes about the consequences. For example, what would LKH think of the episode where a man, who was wrongfully accused and arrested for rape by Olivia Benson, convicted, and raped by his cellmates, wound up killing several people connected to Olivia’s previous cases in order to get back at her? Where the whole point of the episode is that the police are not always right and that sometimes they do go too far?
/Anita says because she'd rather have nightmares than look a family in the eyes and tell them their loved one is dead/
Oh, really? How about the vampires’ families? Can you look them in the eyes and tell them that THEIR loved one is dead or has been tortured?
/because we were too good, too righteous to get the information we needed."/
Information through TORTURE. You’re not even considering alternate ways to interrogate them. No, you just leap for the most despicable one and then get on your high horse and whine about how you can’t do anything else, just like you whined about not being able to stop banging Cynric. You’re not being hardcore or tough or morally ambiguous, you’re being a CHILD. “WAAAAAH, it’s not my fault, I had to do it, they made me, don’t blame me, you’re a meanie-head, it’s not my fault!”
/"when a friendship breaks this badly it doesn't turn to hatred; it turns to pain."/
Yes, because disagreeing over something that should be simple (TORTURE IS BAD) is a “friendship breaking.” No, Anita, when you’re seriously contemplating torturing other people and cutting up bodies in front of them, I really don’t care about your "pain." Especially not when it’s nothing more than self-pity that Larry is arguing with you.
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Date: 2013-12-31 11:38 pm (UTC)Not just people, DEAD people. She kills children and then goes to sleep with one. If that’s not twisted, I don’t know what is.
/"men never expected me to be able to keep up with them/
Would you give it a rest, Ms. Hamilton? You know what would do a better job of showing how awesome your heroine is? If all of the men that she worked with respected her and admired her because of how good she is at her job.
/Urlrich says he heard that Anita is going to cut up the corpses in front of the other vampires, and Anita nods/
Okay, I know that a lot of people get upset when vampires are used for analogues to real life because vampires are bloodsucking monsters and thus their situation is naturally different from that of minorities or just humans in general. But dear Lord. If any American soldier was caught doing that to an enemy soldier and word got out? They would be slammed so hard with human rights violations. I know that people have compared LKH’s ideas about torture and murder to “24,” but does this scenario ever happen on “24?” Does Jack Bauer actually mutilate the corpses of the suspect’s friends in front of them while he’s interrogating them?
I’m sorry, ANITA is the one who understands monsters here? ANITA is the one who’s upset by society’s discrimination towards them? Yeah, Anita, the vampires are afraid of you – because you’re a sadistic psycho!
/that phrase is generally used by men to condescend to women/
Which fits Anita to a tee, since she condescends to anyone who dares to object to her bloodthirsty ways.
/"Guys didn't ask about emotions unless they had to"/
Which is why there are no male psychologists, psychiatrists, counselors, or therapists.
/"it's not cozy being the monster."/
Oh, but you like bragging about how the vampires are all afraid of you. You can’t have it both ways.
/"He looked so serious, so convinced he was right./
BECAUSE HE *IS*, YOU DERANGED PSYCHOPATH!
/Anita argues that regular interrogation takes too much time/
Ah, yes, the old “ticking bomb” scenario. Always handy for torture-apologists. But, of course, they miss the "practical" point entirely: TORTURE DOESN’T WORK. Does LKH think that all of the people who “confessed” to be witches during the Salem Witch Trials were really witches?
/Now, I've been a fan of Law & order: SVU/
So have I and that show has gone back and forth on this issue often. But it has sometimes acknowledged that police going to extremes is wrong and has had a few episodes about the consequences. For example, what would LKH think of the episode where a man, who was wrongfully accused and arrested for rape by Olivia Benson, convicted, and raped by his cellmates, wound up killing several people connected to Olivia’s previous cases in order to get back at her? Where the whole point of the episode is that the police are not always right and that sometimes they do go too far?
/Anita says because she'd rather have nightmares than look a family in the eyes and tell them their loved one is dead/
Oh, really? How about the vampires’ families? Can you look them in the eyes and tell them that THEIR loved one is dead or has been tortured?
/because we were too good, too righteous to get the information we needed."/
Information through TORTURE. You’re not even considering alternate ways to interrogate them. No, you just leap for the most despicable one and then get on your high horse and whine about how you can’t do anything else, just like you whined about not being able to stop banging Cynric. You’re not being hardcore or tough or morally ambiguous, you’re being a CHILD. “WAAAAAH, it’s not my fault, I had to do it, they made me, don’t blame me, you’re a meanie-head, it’s not my fault!”
/"when a friendship breaks this badly it doesn't turn to hatred; it turns to pain."/
Yes, because disagreeing over something that should be simple (TORTURE IS BAD) is a “friendship breaking.” No, Anita, when you’re seriously contemplating torturing other people and cutting up bodies in front of them, I really don’t care about your "pain." Especially not when it’s nothing more than self-pity that Larry is arguing with you.